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« #30 : June 30, 2008, 03:05:52 AM »

Thanks for the reply!

on your vista pc you'll have to uninstall the widdcomm stack, you have to be shure that your bluetooth uses the standard microsoft stack!

You are right about johnny lees applications, you have to make some modifications in the sourcecode to make them work wih the standard microsoft stack. I can't get why johnny doesn't update his sourcecode. If you want i can send you a compiled version of johnny lees apps that will work with your standard microsoft stack.

Thanks for the feedback, feedback keeps the development alive! nobody wants do develop something if not many ppl seem to use it ;)

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« #31 : June 30, 2008, 03:49:03 AM »

I just read about a widdcomm SDK if someone has suggestions on a stick using widdcomm stack it would be nice.
maybe someone would donate one to me so i maybe can expand the compatibility to widdcomm!

I got a stick working with bluesoleil, i will try to find an SDK for that one.

Would be cool if my app supports all BT stacks out there.

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« #32 : June 30, 2008, 04:36:33 AM »

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A widdcomm compatable stack would be awesome!

This is the link to HP's widdcomm based stack:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=au&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=447371&prodNameId=447348&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ob-48231-1

I have helped a number of users using the HP internal stack that have had connectivity problems.

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« #33 : June 30, 2008, 04:47:53 AM »

is there a compatibility list with wich sticks that stack is working?

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« #34 : June 30, 2008, 04:52:23 AM »

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Straight from HP so I would say HP internal only. I assume you need it to work to be able to program for it? After stripping this from my Laptop, Bluesolie did work? But I doubt HP will release a compatability list.

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« #35 : June 30, 2008, 04:58:29 AM »

yes, i'll need a bt stick running with the widdcomm stack for developing, otherwise it would be verry hard.

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« #36 : June 30, 2008, 09:11:34 PM »

Thanks for your comments.  I figured that I would have to uninstall the widcomm and reinstall the MS driver /stack.
Here is where I got the widcomm from:
http://www.dev-toast.com/2007/01/05/uncrippling-bluetooth-in-vista-rtm
This is quite old, but I think that the newer versions had problems.  It did it install following the instructions from this site.

I would appreciate the compiled version of Johnny Lee for the MS stack, especially the Whiteboard presenter.
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I haven't programmed in c since 1991, using Borland compiler, so would have to spend some time learning the c# compiler.

Your approach of using the MS stack would be the best solution, as it seems to work with Vista and XP, plus it is a free download and it would standardize this process.  All of the other solutions seem to be borderline on legality at best. 

I do appreciate your work, and others contributions to this group.  I see so many people who are excited about this, and everyone seems to be having the same problems.
woodwaker

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on your vista pc you'll have to uninstall the widdcomm stack, you have to be shure that your bluetooth uses the standard microsoft stack!

You are right about johnny lees applications, you have to make some modifications in the sourcecode to make them work wih the standard microsoft stack. I can't get why johnny doesn't update his sourcecode. If you want i can send you a compiled version of johnny lees apps that will work with your standard microsoft stack.

Thanks for the feedback, feedback keeps the development alive! nobody wants do develop something if not many ppl seem to use it Wink

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« #37 : July 01, 2008, 04:41:53 AM »

thanks,
as soon as i find the time to upload the binarys i will provide the link to you. for the whiteboard i would use wiimote-smooth-board by boonjin, it has the fix and many usefull additions.

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« #38 : July 01, 2008, 07:29:02 PM »

Thex
Instead of getting a Widdcomm Stack you could look at the source code of the Java White Boards connection tool. http://www.uweschmidt.org/wiimote-whiteboard. It has no problems in connecting with widdcomm.

Or you could PM the programmer "UJS" http://www.wiimoteproject.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1240 He may be able to give you the information you need?

I'm desperate to get a good connection utility for XP with Widdcomm. The last two rollouts of laptops in my district have been HP with internal Bluetouth (widdcomm). It has been a real barrier for some of my less comoputer literate teachers to take on this concept as the connection process is quite fidgity.

Thanx for your awesome work!

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« #39 : July 01, 2008, 09:54:13 PM »

thex,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I downloaded the wiimote smooth-board and it works well with your program.  Didn't have much time to check it out, just to see it connected and worked.  Now I just need to get some hardware set up (IR LED's and a working pen).  I don't know if this is off topic, and apologize if it is, but I'm using a bluetooth from Newegg that was $10, and has worked great with your program.  It also connected with the WIDCOMM stack.  I can provide more information if anyone wants it.  Thanks for your hard work and the contributions Benpaddlejones has made.
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« #40 : July 02, 2008, 01:18:34 AM »

Nice to hear,
so your stick is using the widdcomm stack and works wih my software?
That shuldn't work ;) could you provide a screenshot of your bluetooth devices in your device manager and maybe the driver tabs in their settings?

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« #41 : July 02, 2008, 11:18:53 PM »

thex,
Sorry that I was not more clear in my previous post.

My bluetooth did connect with the Widcomm driver, but not to your program or any other program except WiimoteWhiteboard at http://www.uweschmidt.org/wiimote-whiteboard.  It suggested using the Widcomm drivers.
This was the only application that I could find that did use the Widcomm.  It was quite a difficult process to install and then remove the widcomm drivers, and get the MS drivers working again.

I prefer the Windows driver.  Even with them it is a challenge to get a connection started consistently.

Now with the Windows Driver and your program, I can connect and use the Wiimote Smooth Board 0.1 http://www.boonjin.com/wp/2008/06/28/wiimote-smooth-board-01-beta BETA and WiimotePresenter ver 0.2  http://jasonlpsmith.googlepages.com/wiimotepresenter.  These give me the two different approaches I need to test with, a pen based system and a fixed LED and a point able wii.

These are working on my 32 bit Vista ultimate, and I will test on my XP laptop to verify that all is working.  I received 3 more bluetooth dongles to test yesterday.

Thanks for your assistance.
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« #42 : July 08, 2008, 03:21:03 PM »

Hi All,
Thank you very much for your work on the WiimoteConnect program. Our primar school in the Netherlands http://rosaboekdrukker.net , hopes to use the whiteboard software next schoolyear. Connecting the Wiimote was a big hurdle, too big for teachers in primary schools, trying to connect with a classroom full of children, failing connection, getting nervous, impatient children, etcetera. The connection problems could have been a showstopper for the whiteboard project.

Your program solved this problem. It worked right out of the box on:
- Compaq D500 with P4, 1,8 GHz, 512 Mb RAM USB 1.0
- Gembird USB 2 PCI card (VIA chip)
- Trust USB Dongle type BT-2400P
- Windows XP with SP2 and all updates
- .NET 2 framework

This is a great step forward for schools.
Thanks again and good luck with your work.
Please keep it simple for us!
Dirk


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« #43 : July 09, 2008, 04:26:51 AM »

thanks for the feedback, if you got any ideas for the further development dont hestitate to contact me

thex

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« #44 : July 14, 2008, 11:24:39 PM »

thex
Check out my post: http://www.wiimoteproject.com/wiimote-and-bluetooth-connectivity/finally-a-fix-for-bluesoleil-usb-bluetooth-stop-bluesoleil-crashing-your-comp!/.

I'm hoping you may be able to use this to get widdcom on your system and get WiimoteConnect working with Widdcom, without having to buy a new dongle?

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