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« on: May 07, 2008, 03:18:18 AM »

Wiimote Friends

I want to make a summary of successful IR Pens & Wiimote Interactive Whiteboards.

Could anyone with a working and basic IR Pen/Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard please leave a reply to this post with the following responses:

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If your Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard is not working please don't contaminate the data Cheesy



Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]):
IR Led Strength (ma):
IR Field of view (degree's):
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss):
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back)
Resistor (none/ohms):
Switch type:
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m):
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m):
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient):
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting):
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD):
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success:
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other)
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard:
Anything else relevant:




I want to use this information to make a knowledgebase to remove the trial and error of making these beasts and thus make this technology more accessible.

Once enough data is gathered I will produce a wiki that summarises this information in a novice friendly manner.

benpaddlejones

p.s. Anyone who knows the above information of Johnny Chung Lee's setup would be extremely helpful (he only says the IR-Led info on his blog)
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 09:06:08 AM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]):  single rechargeable 1.2V AA
IR Led Strength (ma): Same as Johnny.  Vishay something.
IR Field of view (degree's):  See above
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss):  I bought it from Mauser, using the link provided on Johnny's site.
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back):  Tip.
Resistor (none/ohms):  None
Switch type:  Momentary mini-switch
Working distance from Wiimote (m):  9 feet back, and about 9 feet off the ground. 
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m):  I don't know.  I always use it from the same spot.
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient):  No sunlight, no incandescent light, just fluorescent light in my room.  Works with all the lights on.
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting):  See above.  9 feet back from the board.  I have it attached to the side of the projector with Velcro, with another Velcro strap going from the Wiimote to the top of the projector.  It's secure.  It's angled about the same as the projector.
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD):  Whiteboard.
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success:  I have to hold it with the pen angled up a little bit.  It's quite natural until I have to write lower down towards the chalk tray.
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other): 
  • I have gotten it to work on Apple Built-In BT, but only under OSX.  If someone can get it to work in Windows, let me know.
  • Logitech BT Mini-Reciever with Widcomm
  • IOGear external BT dongle with Widcomm
  • Dell BT internal 355 with Widcomm (I like widcomm)
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard:  SMART notebook, Promethean ActivStudio or whatever it's called, Kagan Tools, and that's about it.
Anything else relevant:  If you're using a Mac, try Uwe Schmidt's software.  http://www.uweschmidt.org/wiimote-whiteboard  I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 05:38:49 AM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1 x 3V CR1220 lithium battery 35 mAh
IR Led Strength (ma): 2V 40mA
IR Field of view (degree's): 40 degrees
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): RadioShack
IR LED location on pen: Tip, slightly recessed
Resistor (none/ohms): 15 ohms
Switch type: Pushbutton momentary, low profile
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): Tested at 2m
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): Unknown
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): Functional in all lighting conditions
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): Even with lowest edge of surface, angled up approximately 20-30 degrees towards top of surface
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): Melamine whiteboard
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: Almost any angle seems to work
Bluetooth connection: External dongle running BlueSoleil
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: Smart Notebook, Jarnal, Firefox
Anything else relevant: Works beautifully! Next prototype pen build will use 60 degree emitter and AAA battery. Highly recommend the new Expo style dry erase marker cases:

http://expomarkers.com/sanford/consumer/expo/jhtml/productDetail.jhtml;jsessionid=WH3TJYL0JFYGUCQHUB2CJBQKA4QGIJCK?attributeId=EXPOPA000029&currentType=EXPOPAT100003


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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 12:17:40 PM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1*AAA battery 1.2Volt(rechargeable)
IR Led Strength (ma):20mA
IR Field of view (degree's):about 35degrees
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss):swedish shop www.kjell.com #89281
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back) at the tip
Resistor (none/ohms): none
Switch type: microswitch swedish shop www.clasohlson.se #36-1982
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): about 1-1.5meter
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): unknown
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): dark
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): about 45 degrees from the screen or above the laptop
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): LCD and a door when used with projector
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: try not to block sight with your hand
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) a dongle from billionton
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: Office suite, Internet explorer
Anything else relevant: read my howto for the pen here:
http://www.wiimoteproject.com/index.php?topic=804.0
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 07:20:54 AM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1 x AA 1.5v
IR Led Strength (ma): 1.5v 40mA
IR Field of view (degree's): 45 degrees
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): RadioShack
IR LED location on pen: Tip
Resistor (none/ohms): none
Switch type: Pushbutton momentary and a toggle switch
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): used at 2m
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): 5m (unsensitive)
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): all lighting conditions, even outside.
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting):Mounted on a tripod 2m from the center of the screen offset to the right. Even with the center of the screen. 0 degrees.
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): Parabolic projector screen
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: Set up for left handed people. Don't pull the pen far away from the screen.
Bluetooth connection: Kensington dongle
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: My-T-Soft Virtual Onscreen Keyboard, Photoshop, firefox
Anything else relevant: Wiimote is setup for lefthanded people. When the pen is farther (2-3 inches) from the screen two IR signutures are found due to the angle of the LED and reflection from the screen. I used a broken airsoft silencer for the pen. I have some planned expansions to add a scroll wheel and right click.http://i29.tinypic.com/301of0n.jpg
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 12:05:27 PM »

I would also like to know the power per angle (mW/sr)...
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 03:27:47 AM »

Pen #1 - for Presentations
Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 2 AA's=3V, 4 LEDs in parallel
IR Led Strength (ma): 100mA, 2.3V each
IR Field of view (degree's): 120
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): Mouser.com supplier, Vishay TSMF3710-GS08
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back) Side (2 ea side)
Resistor (none/ohms): 10 ohms 1/8 watt(4 ea)
Switch type: micro momentary from Radio Shack
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): .75m for deskwork, 3-5m for projector on wall
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): 5m
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): Bright
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): 3-5m/2-3m /20-45degrees/ceiling and wall
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): LCD screen and plain wall
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: no special hold, two sided
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) external dongal/Windows bluetooth
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: PowerPoint/Photoshop
Anything else relevant: compact universal mounts using neodynum magnets

Pen #2 - for deskwork
Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 3 button batteries=4.5V, 1 LED
IR Led Strength (ma): 100mA, 2.3V
IR Field of view (degree's): 120
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): Mouser.com supplier, Vishay TSMF3710-GS08
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back) Side
Resistor (none/ohms): 30 ohms 1/8 watt
Switch type: integral to laser pointer used
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): .75m for deskwork, 3m for projector on wall
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): 3m
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): Bright
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): 1m/.33m /20-45degrees/ceiling and wall
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): LCD screen
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: right-hand hold
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) external dongal/Windows bluetooth
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: PowerPoint/Photoshop
Anything else relevant: compact universal mounts using neodynum magnets

link to this Picasa page for images of pen and mounts:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Micbridge/WiimoteWhiteboardProject

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 05:41:15 AM »

I would also like to know the power per angle (mW/sr)...

Excuse my electrical   Cheesy noobness Cheesy but:
A) What is this and what does it mean for the Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard user/manufacturer?
B) Can this be found on manufacturer’s datasheet? Thus the poster by providing the IR-Led Supplier and product code will allow viewers to find the manufacture’s datasheet and the more detailed technical information they need.

However, if this is a really important detail, I will certainly add to the list of data I'm collecting.

I hope to have a fairly comprehensive picture of 'How/what' successful pen's are being built in the next few weeks.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 04:33:51 PM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1x AAA, 1.2v Rechargable 800mAh
IR Led Strength (ma): 100
IR Field of view (degree's): 50
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): Vishay TSAL6400
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back): Tip
Resistor (none/ohms):none
Switch type: SPDT Micro
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): approx 3m
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): tested to about 10m
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): bright/ambient (fluro tubes)
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): 1/2 left of whiteboard at desk height
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): Whiteboard
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: Stand to right of pen
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) HP Internal Stack
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: Onenote, AnnotatePro2.0, windows
Anything else relevant:
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 11:17:02 AM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1 x Energizer 3v CR2 lithium Photo
IR Led Strength (ma): 130mA
IR Field of view (degree's): 100 degrees
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss):  LD271 — OSRAM, 5MM, 950NM
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back) Tip
Resistor (none/ohms):10ohms
Switch type: Momentary
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): currently less than 1 (too much clutter on my desk) works very well at this distance
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): 1.5 (so far...no further testing has taken place)
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): Ambient (artificial lighting)
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): on a stack of books to the left of a 19 inch LCD (15cm high, 50cm away, 50 degrees to screen)
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): LCD
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: none
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) BlueSolie
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: Whiteboard 0.2.2 with smoothing (Awesome), Ritepen, Annotate Pro, MS Onenote (tested today)
Anything else relevant:LED from http://au.farnell.com product number 1212748


http://au.farnell.com product number 1212748
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 07:32:37 PM »

Power Supply (quantity x [v & mAh]): 1x AAA,
IR Led Strength (ma): 100, 150
IR Field of view (degree's): 50
IR LED Supplier (inc code if poss): ?? radio shack, threw package away
IR LED location on pen (tip, side, back): Tip
Resistor (none/ohms):none
Switch type: momentary
Working distance from Wiimote (line of sight distance from board to wiimote) (m): approx 1m for now
Maximum distance from Wiimote (m): tested to about 5m
Light conditions (dark/bright/ambient): ambient/ sunlight
Location of the Wiimote (give detail- distance/height/angle/mounting): I have the screen mounted at a 45 degree angle, and the wiimote is directly over it pointed straight down, I can get about 98 percent coverage at 2-3 feet away.
Projection media (whiteboard/sheet/projector screen/LCD): LCD monitor
Special instructions on hold pen to ensure success: works with left or right handed people
Bluetooth connection (internal/external & manufactures software/BlueSolie/other) HP Internal Stack, kennsington dongle
3 most commonly used programs controlled with Wiimote Interactive Whiteboard: ableton live 6.0, firefox, windows
Anything else relevant: I made two infrared lights. One is a small alien saucer keychain, and the other is a pen made from sharpie highlighter. What I have been doing is having the alien in my left hand covering the left side menus, while the pen in my right hand can move the scroller, or slice and drag audio regions. Anyone that is getting a keychain shaped IR light keep in mind that depending on where you are setup the hand holding it can get in the way of it being sensed, more importantly it can block the screen so you cannot see. That is why I made the second light pen shaped with a long tip to allow visibility on my small screen.
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