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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2008, 06:05:17 AM »

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1. Make sure rightclicker works in Onenote & Powerpoint Pen mode.

2. Maybe a way to quickly bring up the "On Screen Keyboard" already part of Windows, but a way to make it easily accesible would be good, maybe a button next to rightclicker on the taskbar that opens Keyboard. (without having to scoll through Start Menu of find shortcut on the desktop)

Plus still think given you have evolved well beyond Johnny's app you need a name for your program to give you some ownership.

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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2008, 06:15:04 AM »

Hopefully it works for powerpoint using C#.net
Previously I have tried several methods but unfortunately when I have managed to get it to work in powerpoint, the app will fail in the normal windows desktop.

Maybe you could help to name the new version? Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2008, 06:51:16 AM »

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Awesome!!!

Works in Onenote & powerpoint 2007 with Win XP32bit

No keyboard though?

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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2008, 07:30:02 AM »

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Awesome!!!

Works in Onenote & powerpoint 2007 with Win XP32bit

No keyboard though?

benpaddlejones

Great!
The keyboard does not activate? Its accessible through the menu at the system tray icon.

Here is the link to the test version for others to test the Wiimote Whiteboard 0.2.2 BETA Smiley
http://www.boonjin.com/wp/2008/06/19/wiimote-whiteboard-022-beta
Please feedback whether it works. Thanks!
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2008, 10:52:58 AM »

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Found it!

Can the entire program minimise to the system tray? So after calibration, minimise to system tray, have a 'Maximise' option with 'Exit' & 'Keyboard'. (A 'Calibrate' Option in this menu would be good too.)

This means one less icon on taskbar, especially when once calibrated there is no need to access the program except to exit, if there is a need user can just leaves application maximised, or select 'Maximise' from system tray?

Not sure if an issue but I only got the click out of active area to work on the left side? Is this standard?

Finally I think you should put a post up on calling for others ideas to make Wiimote Smooth Board more functional.

Given the three options to rightclick are awesome, I actually find it quicker than than the clickhold , I don't see a reason to waste your time trying to program for the click hold option!

A customised Icon could finishes the presentation of your application off, I was thinking this Icon could be also what displays in the system tray until clicked when turns to your "R" icon.

The final two steps are a Help file (I can help with this during school holidays in a few weeks) and a Connection Tool.

Given http://www.infraredpens.com are now selling pre-fab IR-Pens I think the Wiimote Whiteboard is about to get bigger! (I've emailed them hoping they are using a VISHAY TSAL6400 or similar quality IR-LED so we know works 100%).

EXCITING TIMES AHEAD MY FRIEND Grin

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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2008, 12:36:40 PM »

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Can the entire program minimise to the system tray? So after calibration, minimise to system tray, have a 'Maximise' option with 'Exit' & 'Keyboard'. (A 'Calibrate' Option in this menu would be good too.)

This means one less icon on taskbar, especially when once calibrated there is no need to access the program except to exit, if there is a need user can just leaves application maximised, or select 'Maximise' from system tray?

Yea I will try to do that.
Maybe I will create another icon for the application itself. To differentiate with the toggle modes icon.

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Not sure if an issue but I only got the click out of active area to work on the left side? Is this standard?

Finally I think you should put a post up on calling for others ideas to make Wiimote Smooth Board more functional.

Sure! We can create a new topic together soon.

Hm...The click outside screen area should be also on the other sides. Maybe this is due to your wiimote being calibrated without much extra tracking area outside the screen. We will have to test this feature more.
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Given the three options to rightclick are awesome, I actually find it quicker than than the clickhold , I don't see a reason to waste your time trying to program for the click hold option!
I myself found it so easy to right click now. Smiley

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A customised Icon could finishes the presentation of your application off, I was thinking this Icon could be also what displays in the system tray until clicked when turns to your "R" icon.

Any idea what the icon should contain?

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The final two steps are a Help file (I can help with this during school holidays in a few weeks) and a Connection Tool.

Given http://www.infraredpens.com are now selling pre-fab IR-Pens I think the Wiimote Whiteboard is about to get bigger! (I've emailed them hoping they are using a VISHAY TSAL6400 or similar quality IR-LED so we know works 100%).

EXCITING TIMES AHEAD MY FRIEND Grin

With an detailed Help file online and within the application, in addition to the ready made irpens, I am sure that this will be exciting. Smiley

If possible, we can set up a collaboration with the irpen makers to guide users to set up the hardware and software.

Boon Jin
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2008, 02:30:18 PM »

I added theese icons to my apps so they looks nice on the desktop



original Whiteboard and modified Whiteboard for the 2 icons
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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2008, 05:24:34 AM »

Boonjin
Something like Undcons icons look good.

Had a brainstorm this morning that will not only help identify the click outside viewable area but will also act as a valuable diagnostic and wiimote placement assistant.

In Jason Smiths http://jasonlpsmith.googlepages.com/wiimotepresenter there is a window, this window has a visual representation of the location and strength of a detected IR-Blob.

My idea is to have at the bottom of your application a similar window representing the full tracking area. Once calibrated four black dots are represented showing the calibration dots or a retangle representing the screen area inside the tracking area. Then as with Jason's app if a strong IR-Blob is detected a small red cross appears in that location and a small blue cross if its a weak IR-Blob.

As said this would be awesome to assist in accurate wiimote placement and let the user know with their current calibration were the side space is. Plus act as a diagnostic to help them identify the best angle to palce the Wiimote for their writing style.

The tracking utilisation percentage can then be under this window and will mean more to lay-users. Jason has the source code on his site so should save re-inventing the wheel.

Benpaddlejones :-)
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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2008, 09:22:12 AM »

Hi Ben,
I have just exactly the same idea this morning regarding the tracking utilization.
I am planning to make it show a rough display of the screen area within the whole Wiimote tracking area.
This will allow the user to perform some adjustments to the Wiimote to achieve higher tracking utilization.

Currently, I have succeeded using Brian Peek's WiimoteLib 1.4 instead of the previous 1.2 which Johnny has used.
With this, I have created an advanced settings screen that allows the user to choose the IR camera sensitivity settings.
For example, if the IR source used is too weak, the user can increase the sensitivity at the expense of errors caused by other IR sources (sun light).  And also, if the classroom has some sun light coming in, the user can decrease the IR sensitivity.

I am adding a whole bunch of features such as auto start in windows (option to enable or disable) and triggering different modes depending on which section of the screen is pressed (customizable). For example, the user can make the application execute the On Screen Keyboard by clicking the bottom right side of the screen.

I am trying to make the app to work in the background waiting for a wiimote to be connected. Hopefully, it will then automatically connect the connected Wiimote once the Wiimote is available. If this can be done, the user do not have to manually execute the application (if the user has enabled the app to autostart with windows).

Regarding the waek IR-blob detection through the window, in our situation it might be more difficult. However, I might try to look at it on how to apply it to the whiteboard.

Boon Jin
PS: looks like we are 'high' on ideas.
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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2008, 10:03:33 AM »

Boonjin
Awesome!

I'm pretty sure Jason's does the IR-Blob strength thing, maybe check his source code.

While on the topic of Jason's app, can you integrate similar key stroke options on yours?

Thinking two modes.
Mode A: (Wiimote Smooth Board) As you are already doing
Mode B: (Wiimote Smooth Presenter) User can program any buttons on Wiimote to execute any keystrokes or multiple key strokes. (basically all the functions of Jason's app just integrated into yours when in Mode B).

I use both yours and Jason's Apps, I find when flicking between the two it can crash both and Bluetooth connection, thus I need to reconect and start again. This would allow users to easily flick between the two as in the same application.

I know many Primary teachers love to use Google Earth and I think Jason's app is really cool at exploring Google Earth. One program that does both makes everything easy.

Benpaddlejones
p.s. love the sound of easy connect, will make process a whole lot easier.
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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2008, 09:57:45 PM »

Hello,
What a nice job you've done so fast Boonjin !

I agree with Benpaddlejones : teachers like me love to work with Google Earth and it would be so nice of you to add a scrolling option (outside screen control) to make a zoom, as you can see in this app http://fuelnatchos.webng.com/gtkwhiteboard/.

As a wiimote whiteboard user i find double-click assistance very useful too (it works great with the java app http://www.uweschmidt.org/wiimote-whiteboard).

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« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2008, 02:02:38 AM »

Hello,
  First of all I wanna say thank you to Johnny Lee for realizing the potential of the wiimote to do something like this whiteboard.  Secondly, thank you to Boonjin for building upon what Johnny had done, and to Benpaddlejones for his video that showed all the usefulness of the wiimote whiteboard and for his input to making Boonjin's app better.
  I tried the WW 0.2.2 Beta, and I like all the features it offered.  I just tried in on my office crt computer monitor, and I plan to try it using the projector later on.  We don't have Microsoft OneNote installed with our copy of Office 2007, so I'm sorry to say that I don't have any insight on it's functionality with WW 0.2.2 Beta. 
  However, I did a demonstration for some people at my office using WW 0.2 (i believe) and they were thoroughly impressed.  I work for an Architect office, and the guys could already see where this would come in handy using it for meetings with clients and contractors, editing the plans on pdf using Adobe Acrobat Pro's editing features during the meeting, saving the pdf (along with edits made) and emailing it right away to those who need it.  I'm still trying to think of how to effectively use the Whiteboard with AutoCAD so that we can make changes to the plans right there.  I guess we're just going to have to work with what we got.
  Thanks again very much!
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« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2008, 04:20:20 AM »

Hello guys,

I will be trying to make the outside screen area to trigger a click, keyboard press for shortcuts or executing application. With all these features combined, it will allow the whiteboard to be customizable to suit a variety of environments. I think it would be something similar to the gtkwhiteboard.

chadepp, Frenchy, ben
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« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2008, 06:05:12 AM »

Boonjin
Can you make the Wiimote Keys programable too?

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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2008, 10:09:24 PM »

0.2.2 BETA works like a charm on:
- vista business
- OneNote 2007
- Powerpoint 2007
- Hand writing recognition

The right click function is very useful and easy to use.

On a regular basis I give presentations and workshops.  There is a need to switch from Powerpoint to some other program and back.  This must be done through ALT-TAB.

REQ: ALT-TAB FUNCTION
2-clickable areas. Mouse click on one area (preferably in the same form as right click) toggles ALT-TAB (with alt continued to be pressed), clicking more on this are triggers an TAB.  Clicking on the other area releases the TAB.
or,
3-clickable ares. Same as above, but with the 3th area providing SHIFT-TAB.

To make it really nice. A check mark will turn the ALT into Windows-key.




Kind regards

Stefan van Aalst
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