Author Topic: SOLVED - Almost, but...nope!  (Read 14831 times)

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on: December 21, 2008, 01:17:04 AM
I just picked up a Rocketfish USB Bluetooth adapter. I'm running on Vista and haven't been able to connect so far.

-The default drivers saw the Wiimote, connected, but no program could read it
-Ditto for the XP drivers

I've updated everything and right now I'm using the WinXP drivers. The WiiMote is listed as a "Bluetooth HID Device" in Device Manager.

It does work...sort of. What happens is they'll connect, and GlovePIE can WRITE to the WiiMote, but not READ it. That is, I can make it rumble or make the LEDs flash, but none of the buttons work and none of the movement controls are working.

Using Wiimote Connect gets the same result.

Any help would be appreciated...
« Last Edit: January 05, 2009, 05:38:41 AM by benpaddlejones »



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Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 03:18:35 AM
Phoenix
If your running vista why WinXP drivers?

Can you give me screen dumps of your device manager & driver details.

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Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 11:12:04 PM
..VISTA drivers. Durr.

Additional bit of info: The Wiimote Connect ap works. Doesn't allow me to use anything else, but it does say its connected the Wiimote. Wiimote test errors out with "Error reading date from Wiimote...is it connected?" but if I bypass that I can light the LEDs and make the Wiimote rumble.

Note: I have a Novint Falcon installed, so some of those HID devices are probably normal. Didn't realize I had QUITE that many til just now.



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Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 01:58:36 AM
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Looks like you don't know if your Artha or Martha? I think you have multiple stacks installed!

I'm pretty sure we can get you going you will just need work with me.

Before I get you to unload anything (unless you want me to stuff your entire machine!) I need more information:

Computer type: Laptop/Desktop
Last complete Vista update: dd/mm/yyyy
Expand 'network adaptors' in device manager post screen dump:
What BT stacks have you loaded on your machine: (ever)
Download the lastest ccleaner from: http://www.ccleaner.com install the application (don't worry it is a very safe & stable app) select Tools/Uninstall/'Save to Text File' then post that file here.

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Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 10:10:58 AM
With the number of times I've tried to get this running, it wouldn't surprise me if I still have bits floating around.

Desktop. Up-to-date as of last week (except for Windows defender and such)

Stacks/drivers:
Default Rocketfish widcomm
Windows XP Rocketfish widcom
Widcomm for another rocketfish adapter that's reported to work
KensingtonBTW 4.0.1.2400 stack
Default Vista stack (should be the only installed- hah)



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Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 01:53:41 PM
Phoenix-D
You have quite a mess in there!

I will need more info, just to be on the safe side and to make sure we kill it all. This may also have the added bonus of speading your machine!

Download, run & post reports from:
Silient Runners: http://www.silentrunners.org/
HijackThis: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download5554.html

When running both make sure they are the only program running and off a fresh boot. Silent runners takes a few minutes just wait and I don't need the extended report.

Can you also take a screen dump of all folders in your c:\program files\ directory.

Once I have this I will be abe to give you a routine to start solving your problem.

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Reply #6 on: December 23, 2008, 12:42:26 AM
Forum software is silly. Won't take .log so I had to rename it.

I doubt the performance boost, but we'll see. The only extra crap should all be Bluetooth related. So if we can clean that out..as long as the Wiimote gets working!




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Reply #7 on: December 23, 2008, 04:08:15 AM
Pheonix-D
The issue is a clash between your logitech BT Stack (generally loaded with older Logitech BT devices and only works with those devices) and your MS BT stack.

What logitech periferal devices are you using: mice/keyboard/camera/etc I need to know which ones and if they are BT or not (part numbers or names would be really helpful). I just need to know what to unload and what not to.

In case you are wondering we are getting there! I think this should be the last question.

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Reply #8 on: December 23, 2008, 11:30:48 AM
..why the hell do I have a logitech BT stack? The only thing from Logitech is my mouse, which is wired USB. (MX 518)



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Reply #9 on: December 23, 2008, 08:43:46 PM
Pheonix-D
I would love to answer your question but last time I checked it was your computer not mine!

Thats all I need, I need some time to think then I'll post what you need to do later today.

It has reminded me this is a stack I need to talk about in the summary of stacks, becuase it does exist and I'm pretty sure it loads when you get the full 'setpoint' drivers from logitech (something you don't really need as the hardware lighter on system requirments as a plug and play device, with no real change to functionality).

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Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 12:03:59 AM
I like how you said you couldn't answer it then answered it. ;)

EDIT: and actually setpoint allows changing button functionality, something which Windows doesn't seem to do. I have the sensitivity buttons mapped to page down/up, for example.



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Reply #11 on: December 24, 2008, 01:15:22 AM
Pheonix-D
Disclaimer: Everything you do is AT YOUR RISK. Without physically looking at your system there is always a risk that I miss something.

Here goes:
1. Do a system restore point: start/all programs/accessories/system tools/system restore

2. Remove any BT USB devices

3. Unplug your Logitech mouse (don't worry we'll reinstall later) & plug in a normal Plug & Play Mouse

4. Open Device Manager & Delete:
  • Human Interface Devices: Logitech USB...

5. Control/panel/remove software: uninstall anything that says 'Logitech' or 'Setpoint' there may be several applications.

6. Restart your computer

7. Do a system restore point: start/all programs/accessories/system tools/system restore

8. Delete c:\program files\logitech & C:\Program Files\Common Files\Logishrd

9. Open Hijack this, check any of the following items if still present and run Hijack this.
Some relate to setpoint and some are just multiple reference in your registry that will slow your machine.

10. Open Device Manager & Delete:
  • Network Adaptors: Bluetooth Device (Personal...
  • Network Adaptors: Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM...
  • Bluetooth Radios: Broadcom...
  • Bluetooth Radios: Microsoft Bluetooth...
  • Human Interface Devices: Bluetooth HID...

11. Run CCLeaner select Tools/Registry and run the registry cleaner

12. Restart your computer

13. Insert your BT USB device & wait for MS to automatically install all the software

14. Connect a BT mobile & check your radio is communicating (even if you can get teh devices to see eachother is good enough).

15. Connect your wiimote using this guide: http://www.wiimoteproject.com/wiimote-and-bluetooth-connectivity/how-to-connect-wiimote-to-vista/

16. Try a few applications including Thex's wiimote connection utility

17. Load the latest Logitech MX518 drivers http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/4259&cl=au,en?osid=13 if you can go to options or advanced in the install process & double check no BT is being addded.

18. Enjoy

Goodluck and let me know how you go.

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Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 12:47:57 AM
No effect.

Device Manager has two Bluetooth radios listed: Broadcom 2045 Bluetooth EDR USB dongle with First Connect and Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator. The wiimote is there as "Bluetooth HID device". No logitech leftovers or other bluetooth references in sight.



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Reply #13 on: December 26, 2008, 04:03:05 AM
Pheonix-D
Are you getting only rumble working, or nothing?

Can you run me through your connection process, using screen dumps if possible.

The fact that your dongle is identified as broadcom is interesting. I wonder if it is not fully compatable with MS BT?

Try downloading widdcomm from:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/wladykad/bcu-btw4-0-1-700.zip

Then connect with:
My Bluetooth Places/Bluetooth Setup Wizard/I want to find a specific Bluetooth device.../"Hold Buttons 1&2"/Select "Nitendo ..."/Next/Skip/Wait for Services to be displayed, Select 'Check Box'/Finish/"Release Buttons 1&2"/Start application within 5 seconds

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Reply #14 on: December 26, 2008, 02:45:43 PM
I can make the remote rumble or light the LEDs. Nothing else.

Additionally I just tried using the adapter on my spare bare-bones XP system. No other bluetooth at all, including Logitech crap. It used the XP Bluetooth stack and nothing. I'm begining to think this adapter just isn't compatible.

The drivers in your link can't find my adapter at all.

connection process is exactly as specified in the link. Add device, click the checkbox, 1/2 at the same time (the lights on the bottom turn off after a certain period of time regardless if I'm holding it or not- I have to release and re-press), click the Nintendo... listing, next, wait for drivers to install, finish, release, startup.

EDIT: Hmm.
http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices

lists
RocketFish Bluetooth EDR Class II Wireless USB Adapter

this is NOT my adapter, but it is what its being detected as.

and it says
Working perfectly with latest WIDCOM drivers.
BlueSoleil and older WIDCOM versions will not recieve input from wiimote.

What's the latest Widcomm?
« Last Edit: December 26, 2008, 02:52:04 PM by Phoenix-D »