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Offline mkemper

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Hi,

I saw Jimmy Lee's VR clip, and as I have a Wii and a Laptop, I am keen to replicate. So I go to Jimmy's website where it says "1. Connect your wiimote to your PC via Bluetooth. if you don't know how, go this this tutorial". So I go to that tutorial, and download BlueSoleil as instructed. Then I start that (I only get 'BlueSoleil' and 'Help' pulldown menus, whereas the image in the tutorial has many more??), and point and click the wiimote at the orange sun as instructed and ... nothing happens.

I have the feeling my setup is wrong. I know nothing yet of bluetooth, so what does the phrase "activate your bluetooth adaptors as needed" mean here? Also, should I not have to use the wii-box somewhere in this setup? I mean, how can my poor laptop know that the wiimote it shooting at it's screen?

Appreciate your help here!

Cheers - Michael
« Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 12:18:26 AM by benpaddlejones »



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Reply #1 on: June 15, 2008, 12:45:41 PM
1. you need bluetooth in your notebook
2. what bluetooth drivers are you using?

if you run the bluesoleil drivers:
i don't know much about bluesoleil, it only works with some bluetooth hardware

if you run vista's or xp's built in bluetooth drivers:
i wrote an program wich can easily connect your wiimote to your vista or xp machine.
you can find the software and discussion here:
http://www.wiimoteproject.com/index.php?topic=954

thex

Please donate via paypal to the WiimoteConnect project

project thread!


Offline mkemper

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Reply #2 on: June 15, 2008, 02:22:50 PM
Thanx for the reply.

It is clear that I come to this completely cold, as I don't know what you mean with "You need bluetooth in your notebook". What does that mean?

I did indeed download bluesoleil (following Jimmy Lee's instructions), but then you say that "... it only works with some bluetooth hardware". What hardware are you referring to? the wiimote? [Does this mean that, if all works well, the wiimote can communicate with my laptop using bluetooth?]

I indeed have XP, so where can I find the built-in bluetooth driver?

Sorry for the many questions, but at this stage I am still puzzled by it all... Normally I catch up quickly though!

Cheers - Michael



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Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 02:16:53 AM
You can verify that you have a Bluetooth device installed by running Device Manager, and looking for "Bluetooth USB". If it is there, you've got something installed, at least. If you expand that, it should reveal something like "Bluetooth Device". If you right-click on that, and select properties, the property page will open. Choose the tab Details. That is the device instance id of your Bluetooth hardware. Mine is: USB\VID_1131&PID_1004\5&D84BCF5&0&2

In your Windows/inf folder is a file named bth.ini, which is a list of Bluetooth device instance ids that are compatible with your installed Windows Bluetooth drivers. BlueSoleiel is for Bluetooth devices that are not included in that file. If your device's instance id is in that file, then you do not need BlueSoleil. If it is not in there, BlueSoleil still might not be right for your hardware.

If it is built-in hardware, or otherwise came with an installation disk, you should probably uninstall BlueSoleil, and reinstall the correct software.

One of the big problems right now with BlueSoleil is that the newer versions do not work well with the Wiimote apparently, and they are no longer free, BlueSoleil Mobile 6.0 is 19 euros.

I use BlueSoleil 2.7.0.13 VoIP Release 071227, and it works seamlessly.

Here is how I do it, with pictures:

Start with the Bluetooth icon in the notification area at the bottom right side of your screen. It should be BLUE. You might notice it open a network connection icon to get an IP address from your system...that is normal. The icon disappears after its done.



Open BlueSoleil by right-clicking it, and selecting Display. This is what you get with BlueSoleil 2.7.0.13 :




Next, when you click on the device icon in BlueSoleil, press 1 and 2 at the same time on the Wiimote then. Doing it earlier will not connect if you don't have BlueSoleil actively seeking devices. The LEDs will flash while the Wiimote is advertising itself for discovery. Success looks like this in BS:



Next, you have to get BS to look for Services. There are menu options for seraching for devices and serviecs, but you can simply right click on the Wiimote device icon that is "orbiting" the Bluetooth device you clicked on earlier, and select "Refresh Services" You will have to repeat the 1 + 2 button press on the Wiimote if the LEDs are not still flashing. Notice the HID icon is enabled now. (The yellow mouse symbol.)



Finally, you must right-click that HID icon, and select "Connect". As always, if the Wiimote LEDs are not flashing, also repeat the 1 + 2 press on the Wiimote. Here is the final indication that you are ready to run Wiimote-enabled software:



The Bluetooth icon is green when a device is connected to it:



Good luck.



« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 03:26:44 AM by jinzai »



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Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 03:48:11 AM
Thanx very much for an incredibly well worked out reply!

I still have some issues getting going with this though. I'll only explain the first one or two problems, and if you can help me there, then I can hopefully follow the rest. Here goes:

1. How do I run device manager?
2. I have a bluetooth logo (no Ikon in the bottom right), and if I double click that, I get a window titled "Bluetooth places", with two lines: "Search Devices" and "My Device"; the former is inactiave, and when I click the latter, a balloonn pops up saying 'Cannot start bluetooth. bluetooth hardware is not found'
3. I downloaded bluesoleil yesterday. It only has Bluetooth and Help menus, and the "About bluesoleil" menu-item shows me that I have BlueSoleil 6.0.227.0 (looks more like an IP address), which is very different from your 2.7.0.13!? How do I get my dirty fingers on the version of BlueSoleil you use??

Cheers - Michel

PS: I cannot paste piccies in my reply. How do you insert them??



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Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 05:20:40 AM
That is the exact version of BlueSoleil that does not work well with Wiimotes...it's awful! (It gives me the Blue Screen of Death with the message "BAD_POOL_HEADER" and proceeds to do a memory dump. On reboot it actually sends the report to Microsoft!)

Users of Vista cannot use BlueSoleil Mobile 6.0 with early versions of Brian Peek's library, either...but, he has updated the library from the version you are using. There is an issue with using the Win32 function WriteFile in Vista with later versions of BlueSoleil. I might have a way to fix it, but my version works fine in XP Pro, and I lack a Vista system to test it with.

My BlueSoleil came with my Bluetooth dongle, but BlueSoleil 5.0 is reported to work with this setup we are using. Maybe you could download that. Uninstall the version you have running first.


If you run Control Panel from the Start menu, and double click on System, you will get a tabbed dialog. Select the Hardware tab. There is a button labeled Device Manager on that tab. Then, follow what I said above to see if your hardware is there. If you have a BlueSoleil icon in the notification area, then you probably have a device installed, but BlueSoleil cannot start it up for some reason.

There are tags you can use to embed images, links, etc. Check the Help link at the top of the screen. I put those in using those tags. Look for a link at t he top or bottom of the Help page named "Posting", it is fairly complete.

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Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 06:25:26 AM
Thanx again, I am getting a bit further (but regrettably not thaat much further, so more help would be appreciated!)

1. I run Windows XP
2. After uninstalling Bluesoleil 6.0.227.0, I managed to get to the Device manager, and ... I have no standard bluetooth device (couldn't find "Bluetooth USB" anywhere)
3. Installed Bluesoleil 5.0.5.178.
4. The bluetooth logo (again no icon in the bottom right) again gives a window titled "Bluetooth places", with two lines: "Search Devices" (<--Disabled) and "My Device"; Again clicking the latter gives "Cannot start bluetooth. bluetooth hardware is not found" (and my wiimote is next to my laptop, switched on?)
5. Even though 4 is not encouraging, I opened Bluesoleil (double-clicked on BlueSoleio.exe), but there are only 3 pulldown menus ("Bluetooth", "View" and "Help"), and I cannot find "Display" as per your instructions. [The "Bluetooth" pulldown menu has (i) Search Devices (disabled), (ii) My device properties (disabled) and (iii) Close (only one enabled!); The "View" pulldown menu has "Arrange devices by...", with it's 3 submenus (name, status, type) greyed-out]

Clearly things are going pear-shaped, and I still feel that I am missing something fundamental. Can you help me a bit further? Much obliged!

Cheers - Michael (from Spain)

PS: Went to the help: to insert a piccie, you need to upload to a website first? - sounds very tricky!



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Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 11:52:28 AM
Michael, let me explain what is happening. This is a hardware issue, not a software issue.

It seems like your computer is not set up with bluetooth hardware, and you are not using a bluetooth dongle. just downloading software will not let you use bluetooth. It is like trying to connect to a wireless internet network without a wireless card in your computer. it just won't work.

That is why it is saying "can not start bluetooth" and "bluetooth hardware not found". You need to buy a bluetooth dongle to plug into a USB port. Go find buy that can use BlueSoliel, and then you should be set.



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Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 12:29:23 PM
Aha,

I had the feeling I missed something in my setup, but I am new to all this and in the 'handy' instructions I have read so far nobody speaks about a dongle, presumably because that is a given for you experts, but not for me!

Anyway, I will buy a bluetooth dongle tomorrow and then I'll try again. Watch this space!

And ... many thanx

Cheers - Michael