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Title: Pairing Problems
Post by: sparky57 on January 31, 2009, 07:31:07 PM
Hi,
I am a kindergarten teacher and would like very much to use the whiteboard technology in my classroom. My computer skills are somewhat limited but I have read through the self help guide and am unable to find a solution to this problem.  My system is Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version. 2002 Service Pack 2.  The computer is a Dell AMD Turion(tm) 64X2 Mobile Technology Tl-56.  The Bluetooth adapter I am using is a Targus ACB10US 2.0 adapter with EDR.  It has a Widcom 5.5.  I have downloaded the beta version of smoothboard and the net frame. I have followed the directions and can detect the wiimote but continue to fail the pairing. It keeps asking for the code but does not give me the option to skip this.  I have tried uninstalling the Targus software and installing an earlier version of Widcom.  When I did this it could not even find the wiimote.  I am hoping you can supply some basic step by step help.
Thanks,            Sparky 57                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on February 01, 2009, 02:13:06 AM
sparky57
Widcomm 5.5 is your problem it is known that it won't connect with the Wiimote.

Follow this: http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm (http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm)

Then you will have the Windows stack so use: http://boonjin.com/smoothboard/index.php?title=Connecting_the_Wiimote_to_a_XP/Vista/Mac_Bootcamp_Microsoft_Bluetooth_stack (http://boonjin.com/smoothboard/index.php?title=Connecting_the_Wiimote_to_a_XP/Vista/Mac_Bootcamp_Microsoft_Bluetooth_stack) to connect.

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: sparky57 on February 01, 2009, 07:08:19 PM
Hi again,

I tried the directions you supplied  for using the microsoft bluetooth stack but it was unable to pick up my adapter.  It said drivers could not be found.  Should I purchase another adapter?  If so, could you suggest one that does not have Widcom 5.5 and would work on my pc? 

Thanks,
Sparky57
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on February 01, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
sparky57
The other option is goto http://www.bluesoleil.com and see if your BT device is compatable with Bluesoleil.

Are you sure you follow the exact steps in: http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm this should fix your problem?

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: hagoh88 on February 02, 2009, 02:22:25 AM
sparky57

I highly recommend this bluetooth adaptor from dealextreme. Works great with win xp and vista - drivers not required. It uses MS stack.  Together with thex wiiconnect you would be up and about in no time.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866

Only cost about US$3 . problem is it takes a long time to deliver but it is worth the wait. So if you really need to buy another bluetooth adapter, this is the one.

hagoh
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Misha on February 16, 2009, 06:55:40 AM
Hello,
I found this topic useful. Not only because it answered me why I have difficulties using WIDCOMM, but also because it made me avoid the trap I fell in as an Bluetooth newbie.

Namely, all I needed to do to make my Wiimote visible via my laptop's integrated bluetooth was to deinstall the WIDCOMM drivers, after which Windows XP default drivers have taken their role. Instead of need to pair the Wiimote with Bluetooth, I have choosen connection establishment without any key. Less secure perhaps, but it works.

My laptop is Dell Inspiron 1720,  I am running Win XP SP2.

*edit*
Of course, don't forget the red sync button you can access when you open your Wiimote's battery storage.
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 24, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
sparky57

Are you sure you follow the exact steps in: http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm this should fix your problem?

benpaddlejones :)

I checked out that link.  However it says that the device should be labeled as a USB Device.  I dont see that.  Here is a screenshot
(http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/help1.JPG)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Raptor007 on March 24, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
From  http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices  (http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices)

RocketFish Bluetooth EDR Class II Wireless USB Adapter should work with the latest WIDCOM drivers. Of coarse I don't know when that was written and after attempting to find the site for WIDCOM I got completly lost. When you bought the Bluetooth adapter did it come with any software?

If the microsoft stack is the only way to fix your problem, i can give these tips.
The file   %windir%\inf\bth.inf   means C:\Windows\Inf\bth.inf

Also the attached picture shows how to find the line to copy into the bth.inf file

That is a complicated procedure that I haven't tried so I might be describing it wrong. I would wait to see if anyone else here has some better ideas about the WIDCOM driver or a different stack to try.

Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on March 25, 2009, 12:22:42 AM
Jah
Make sure all drivers ahve been uninstalled and backup install files deleted. Insert the USB into you machine. Stop the driver install, then look through device manager for a failed install item.

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 26, 2009, 07:43:00 PM
Ok.  Here are the steps that I have taken.  I haven't gotten my wii remote to sync with my computer at all...(not even once).

1. Installed the CD that came with my Rocketfish USB bluetooth adapter.  The adapter was able to see that I had a remote in the room, but the blue lights on the remote would never stay on....they would just flash and then turn off.

2. I then began looking online and saw that several people were having the same problem.  It seemed that everyone was saying DO NOT use the installation cd with this specific bluetooth adapter, therefore, I un-installed it.

3. I then found my way to this website and after looking around for awhile, I found this thread http://www.wiimoteproject.com/bluetooth-and-connectivity-help-center/'no-wiimotes-found-in-hid-device-list'-error-for-boon-jin's-smoothboard/msg5865/ (http://www.wiimoteproject.com/bluetooth-and-connectivity-help-center/'no-wiimotes-found-in-hid-device-list'-error-for-boon-jin's-smoothboard/msg5865/)
This guy sounds EXACTLY like me....but still couldn't get the wii remote to sync.  I tried running Thex's auto connect program, but it seemed to no do anything.

4.  I read a thread about this http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm .  I found the bth file, as shown in my previous post screen shot and added the line as described.  However, I don't think I got the correct hardware ID.  Looking at my device manager, I do not see a generic USB place as people are describing.  This is what i'm working with (Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 btw)

(http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/help2.JPG)

BEN,
I right clicked on the Broadcom place at the top of my device manager and went to UNINSTALL DRIVERS, but whenever I plug the usb adapter back in, the Broadcom thing shows up again in Device Manager.

More details on what and where to uninstall would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 26, 2009, 08:08:58 PM
From  http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices  (http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices)

RocketFish Bluetooth EDR Class II Wireless USB Adapter should work with the latest WIDCOM drivers. Of coarse I don't know when that was written and after attempting to find the site for WIDCOM I got completly lost. When you bought the Bluetooth adapter did it come with any software?

If the microsoft stack is the only way to fix your problem, i can give these tips.
The file   %windir%\inf\bth.inf   means C:\Windows\Inf\bth.inf

Also the attached picture shows how to find the line to copy into the bth.inf file

That is a complicated procedure that I haven't tried so I might be describing it wrong. I would wait to see if anyone else here has some better ideas about the WIDCOM driver or a different stack to try.



I uninstalled the Broadcom 2045 driver from my device manager and loaded that hardware ID as shown in your picture to my bth.inf file instead of the other one.  However, whenever i plug my usb adapter back in, the Broadcom 2045 driver shows back up in my device manager.
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on March 26, 2009, 09:45:16 PM
Jah
Yes it should but will load the MS stack, did you uninstall widcomm?

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 27, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
Yes.  Widcomm is no longer in my Add/Remove Programs....

Do I need to remove it a different way?

What should I do next?

Here is a screen shot of my bth.inf file.

(http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/help3.JPG)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on March 28, 2009, 01:19:36 AM
Try adding 2 lines inc the &rev... id too
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 28, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
I added the &Rev id.  Still doesn't work.

Am I doing something wrong?  Do I need to tell my USB adapter when i am trying to sync the wiimote?

These are the steps that I do:
1. Plug my Rocketfish Bluetooth USB adapter into my computer.
2. Hold down 1 & 2 on the wiimote
3. The 4 blue lights on the bottom start blinking
4. Continue to hold down 1 & 2
5. After 20 seconds or so, the 4 lights stop blinking
6. I let go of the 1 & 2 buttons on wiimote.
7. I get more depressed....

I've tried doing the same thing but instead of pressing and holding 1 & 2, I use the little red button by the batteries.  That doesn't work either.

Do I just need to return this adapter (Rocketfish) and get a different one?  Have I exhausted all other options?  If so, which adapter should I get?
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on March 28, 2009, 09:42:36 PM
Jah
Do you have skype?

Perhaps I can look at what your doing and provide some support?

I'm user: benpaddlejones (on skype too)

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on March 29, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
No I don't...sorry.  I think things got messed up when I installed the software that came with the adapter and then uninstalled it.  I'm going to check it out at school/work, which is where I need it to connect anyways.  Now that I know what i'm doing, I'll try that first.

If you have any other ideas, I would be interested in hearing them though...
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: MarkKino on April 01, 2009, 10:25:27 PM
Thanks for all this...
I have a Belkin  F8T016 (mini adapter) using the WIDCOMM stack. I've spend hours just trying to get past the pairing of the Wiimote and the adapter.

What worked for me was
1) uninstalling the Bluetooth software through add/remove programs, Widcomm  - (do a restart)

2) Following:
http://www.shootingsoftware.com/Widcomm.htm

-  Find the bth.inf file (do a search in the windows directory - mine was in \windows\Servicepackfiles\i386)

-  Adding the line:
Kensington USB Bluetooth Adapter=                BthUsb, USB\Vid_0db0&Pid_697a
with the "Kensington .... Adapter" replaced with whatever and the correct  "USB\Vid....." as found following directions.

- delete the entry (yellow question mark!) from the device manager and remove the adapter. RESTART the computer (maybe this is not necessary) and MANUALLY search for the "inf" file. Get windows to search the directory of the bth.inf file. If the install stalls looking for the "i386" folder as it did for me, just get rid of the extra i386...
The yellow question mark and the old adapter name kept showing up (as it did for JAH)

Everything seems to work fine. Except when I need to reconnect - often I have to add the wiimote again.

Now to try it at school.

Thanks - hope this helps someone else...



Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: sparky57 on April 04, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
Hi,

I wanted to let you know that I purchased a microsoft bluetooth transceiver, paired my wiimote and got smoothboard up and running.

Thanks for your help!

Sparky57
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on April 04, 2009, 11:53:58 PM
sparky57
Awesome.

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on April 06, 2009, 04:05:51 PM
Ok...well I played around with it at school this week....and still on luck.

Here is my story...

1. I turned on my computer and plugged in my Rocketfish Bluetooth USB adapter.  Went to the Device Manager...
http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot1.JPG (http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot1.JPG)


2. Took the information from device manager and inserted it into the bth.inf file.
http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot2.JPG (http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot2.JPG)


3. Unplugged my USB adapter and then plugged it back in.  MANUALLY located the bth.inf file
http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot4.JPG (http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot4.JPG)


4. It searched and then found the following.  So clicked next...and it installed some things before saying that I needed to put a Driver Disc into the CD rom drive.....
http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot5.JPG (http://www.ehhs.cmich.edu/~zha249/Junk/BTH_Screenshot5.JPG)

Still no luck.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on April 07, 2009, 03:37:17 PM
Jah
Try a new BT adaptor or see if the trial of Bluesoleil works.

benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: Jah on April 18, 2009, 06:20:59 AM
I returned my Rocketfish Bluetooth adapter to Best Buy last night.

Therefore, now I am in need of a bluetooth USB adapter....One that is going to work without too much tweaking.

Any links or information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pairing Problems
Post by: benpaddlejones on April 19, 2009, 02:49:25 AM
Jah
ebay, look for the ones that don't require extra drivers (MS Stack).

benpaddlejones :)