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Hardware Support => Bluetooth & Connectivity Knowledge Center => Topic started by: ytpierce on July 21, 2008, 02:40:06 AM

Title: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 21, 2008, 02:40:06 AM
hello everyone!
     I am an employee of IVT corporation.it is my honor to communicate with everybody.
     In order to offer everyone better service,we need your precious suggestions about BlueSoleil.
     you can tell me:
     1.what do you want to do with BlueSoleil and Wii romote.
     2.what profiles do you want BlueSoleil to implement, what functions BlueSoleil has implemented and what functions of it did you think need improvement.
     Whatever you suggest,I will always say thank you for your pure-hearted suggestion,my dear friend! 
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 21, 2008, 02:54:33 AM
ytpierce
If you read many of the posts in the "Bluetooth and Connectivity" thread a majority revolve arround BlueSoleil consistently crashing computers. There seems to be no consistency between situations when this occurs. I found that BlueSoleil had no issues in connecting and or communicating with various Wiimote Projects. Rather it would just randomly crash my whole system even when I wasn't using Bluetooth or Wiimote Projects. (Problem fixed the second I removed the software).

The other issue for myself and teachers is that we stack multiple Bluetooth products ontop of the Whiteboard Project. The main one is a Wacom Bluetooth Graphics Tablet, your software does not allow the Tablet to be used as a Tablet rather restricting it to a mouse type device (this is an issue beyond teh Wiimote Project).

The other barier is inability to Pair with the Wiimote. If Bluesoliel was to stop crashing systems and could pair with a wiimote you would be the software of first choice by Wiimote Project Users!

For teachers (majority of Whiteboard Users) the Tablet issue is significant also but not as much as the others.

Ignoring the instability it is quite a user friendly product with and easy to follow GUI!

Benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 21, 2008, 03:37:22 AM
     thank you so much,benpaddlejones!
     I will have a good look at the posts in the "Bluetooth and Connectivity" and convey your post to our supervisor.
     I still have a request:if we fixed the bug of crashing computers,what will you want us to improve about BlueSoleil?we want do it better,so we need more suggestions about the details!
     Thanks again for your valued and pure-hearted opinion!
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 21, 2008, 04:45:08 AM
ytpierce

What is good:
a) Easy to use interface
b) Choice between Windows Menu Interface & Visual Interface

What needs to be improved:
a) Correct callibration with Wacom Bluetooth Graphics Tablet
BlueSoliel does not allow it to be used as a graphics tablet. With a Widcomm stack I can calibrate the tablet, so if I press & sweep 1cm on the top right hand my cursor will move to the top right hand and sweep 1cm. With Bluesoliel the cursor will not move to the top right hand it will simply sweep 1cm from its existing location.
Read: http://club.wacom.co.jp/wacom-en/servlet/support.user.Swusr103Sv00?entry_id=357 (http://club.wacom.co.jp/wacom-en/servlet/support.user.Swusr103Sv00?entry_id=357)
b) Ability to pair with Wiimote
No need to constantly locate and manually connect with Wiimote (HID). Thus after iniatial pairing, I can turn on my Wiimote, BlueSoliel will identify and connect with it. Just like any standard Bluetooth HID (bluetooth mouse, keyboard, etc).

Let me know if you want more info.

Benpaddlejones :)
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 21, 2008, 05:22:30 AM
    I will save these useful info you have supplied and I am very glad to hear that you can supply more details,the more,the better!  :)
    We can resume it tomorrow.Best wishes to you,see you tomorrow!
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: boonjin on July 21, 2008, 06:30:35 AM
It's great to know that IVT is getting feedback from us. :)

I am also a Bluesoleil user.
Pairing the Wiimote without constantly searching and reconnecting the Wiimotes will be the ideal situation.
If connection between the Wiimote and the computer can be done by just starting up the Wiimote, the technical boundaries that end users encounter will be greatly relieved. If this can be done, I am sure the Bluesoleil software will garner a bigger user base among the Wiimote users.

Thanks!

Regards,
Boon Jin
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: UndCon on July 21, 2008, 06:49:36 AM
Great news!

A nice initiative by IVT!

I hope all problems with connections here can be sorted out.

I'm about to find out myself as I formatted my laptop today...

Best Regards - UndCon
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 21, 2008, 10:34:02 PM
    Thank you,boonjin and UndCon,I have got it,I will collect all the words you have said,no word can escape ;D.
    Just trust us,we will try our best to solve all the problems quickly. :)
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 22, 2008, 06:19:09 PM
ytpeirce
Could you please see: http://www.wiimoteproject.com/support-b11/wiimote-whiteboard-on-windows-vista/ (http://www.wiimoteproject.com/support-b11/wiimote-whiteboard-on-windows-vista/).

You will find numerous posts on this forum refering to the "Blue Screen of Death". Hellsplumber has confirmed that the cause is a Bluesoleil conflict.

Benpaddlejones
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 22, 2008, 09:06:33 PM
  Thank you benpaddlejones,it is the most terrible thing,my partner confirmed it too,we are taking steps to find the reasons and solve it.
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: UndCon on July 23, 2008, 01:00:02 AM
OK - I installed everything from scratch yesterday and I made a install-log...unfortanley I didnt need BlueSoliel in order to get things running - but I still have 1 more computer to go and thats stationary 64bit Vista ;)
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: T-nm on July 23, 2008, 10:05:57 PM
You know what would be cool, full support of the DBT-122 dongle, Vista and all and all.
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: ytpierce on July 24, 2008, 09:08:10 PM
   Yeah, that is also the best result we want to see, I appreciate your suggestion, thank you!
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 25, 2008, 07:10:25 AM
ytpierce
I know Bluesoleil is showing some aweseom interest in this project, and I don't want to overload you but...

Will you also be supporting internal Bluetooth Radio's? The HP & Toshiba seem to be the most common. They are essentailly a widcomm stack (rebranded by both Toshiba & HP) but with a another peice of software called a "Bluetooth Emunerator"? (not sure of its purpose).

If you are able to add "auto connect" with a Wiimote anyone, regardless of their bluetooth device will be able to purchase and use your software. Many schools purchase HP & toshiba because of the quality of their hardware support.

Benpaddlejones

Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: UndCon on July 25, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
and dont forget about Dell - another big brand used by companies and more...
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 25, 2008, 06:01:19 PM
Undcon
I know Toshiba & HP have identical setups:
   1. Internal BT Radio
   2. Bluetooth Software (called HP Bluetooth... or Toshiba Bluetooth... , but both are actually Widcomm)
   3. Blue Emunerator

Does Dell have the same setup?

Maybe one fix, will work on all?

Benpaddlejones :)

Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: UndCon on July 26, 2008, 05:07:04 PM
I'll have a look at a few Dell's at work next week to see what it is...
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: BlueSoleil Support on July 29, 2008, 03:17:56 AM
Dear All,

Thanks again! We've confirm the issue and found a way to resolve it.
But now, our new driver needs to pass Microsoft's digital signature.
Maybe one week, we'll prepare the new version. I'll let you know soon when it's ready.
Please be patient!

Best Regards,
Eric
IVT Corporation
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: UndCon on July 29, 2008, 03:59:42 AM
I wish you best of luck!

Great job all of you.
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: benpaddlejones on July 29, 2008, 08:03:36 AM
BlueSoleil Support & ytpierce

Awesome work!

Any chance of a hint of the fixes:
Blue Screen of Death ???
Pairing with wiimote ???
Wacom Graphics Tablet ???

Benpaddlejones :)
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Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: doomsan on July 31, 2008, 09:09:28 AM
Please make the automatic startup thing happen! it'll attract so many more people to the project. Cheers.
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: mwarner1968 on August 04, 2008, 10:06:54 PM
Any idea about when Bluesoleil 6 will be patched?  School starts soon.  Thanks for keeping open the communication.
Title: Re: collect suggestions about Bluesoleil
Post by: dewgrass on August 05, 2008, 04:04:15 AM
I got messages from other topics.

Good news!

BlueSoleil6.2.227.11 has fixed the BlueScreen issue.
Please download it from http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x.

And I communicated with BlueSoleil support, they are reseaching the suggestions from here and planning to establish a new project to do some work between BlueSoleil and Wii Remote.