Author Topic: Beyond Headtracking?  (Read 13660 times)

Offline Shooty McBang

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on: January 09, 2008, 11:38:25 PM
When I first saw the video on headtracking with the Wiimote, I was really excited. Now, I'm left thinking what will become of this. I'm an Xbox 360 gamer, but I have played the Wii and I really enjoyed the gameplay aspect. The issues I have are that Nintendo just will not dedicate to creating a high end beastly console. What good is great gameplay application without the dazzling visuals to back it up? I really hope that through the development of next gen consoles, developments like this will be taken into consideration to deliver a completely fresh and truly next gen era of gaming. Thoughts anyone?



Offline weck9406

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Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 11:57:07 PM
I think you said it all.  Very well put.  This is a thumbnail scratch on technology that will be the way games are played in the future.



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Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 11:58:24 PM
Now your getting into my line of stuff.  I am a wii guy, I have had one for about 9 months.  I understand where your coming from but Nintendo went with fun over "1080i 8 quad GPUs Hyper Overclocked" graphics.  They went with something different and guess what, they went the right way.  If you look a sales and demand for these systems its almost unheard of.  When I got my wii it had been out for over 5months and I still could not find one.  This Holiday season there were 8 stores with 120 units each that sold out within 30mins! While the P$3 and Xbox360 sat with plenty to go around.

If you want the Full HD Graphics you will not like the wii. If you want to have your parents and friends come over and play until your arms hurt and get everyone involved than the wii is more for you.

Don't get me wrong I like the xbox360 and the ps3, I dont like the original price of each of them and I doubt if I could get my Mom to play any of the games.

Its all in what your looking for.

Dice



Offline Shooty McBang

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Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 12:13:24 AM
I wasn't ragging on the wii by any means. I believe that it is fun and that it IS a step in the right direction. But, I am addicted to good graphics. And to see this sort of console on the market without fully utilizing available technology kills me. I don't mind paying a good amount of money for something cutting edge. Hell, I spent 2100 dollars on my HDTV just because I wanted to maximize my gaming experience. If i'll spend this much for a TV, I'm pretty sure I'll spend a good amount on a console. Also keeping in consideration the fact that a good gaming PC costs way more than any console on the market and that I'm really not into PC gaming anyway, I reserve my gaming to consoles exclusively. I suppose I am just looking too much towards the future. Which is why I'm excited about this site.
BTW... Playing the wii doesn't hurt my arms  :P The army would probably be pretty upset with me if it did. And my wife and family love playing xbox.



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Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 12:22:52 AM
Play boxing for 3 hours straight they start hurting.

Nah I dont think your ragging on the wii.  That all cool that your family gets into the xbox.

My point is that Nintendo did not want to go only the gamers market.  They wanted to get as many people involved as they could (which is why their sales are killing everything)  I mean nursing homes have them for goodness sake!  They bowling tournaments and leagues. 

Plain and simple Nintendo did fun for all over graphics.

Dice



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Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 12:25:53 AM
Agreed. I guess i'm just bored with what's available right now.



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Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
Understandable.  What kind of games are you into?

Currently Mario Galaxy is my little project :) very fun but makes me light headed

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Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 12:52:26 AM
I'm really into FPS (go figure being a 360 player)... but mainly because it's what is being developed the most at the moment. I really like the competetive edge to the online play and I like the fact that it teaches me new things all of the time that are applicable to my job in real life. I also really enjoy a good RPG, but i'm not into the middle earth/ medievel kind of stuff. Didn't care for Oblivion or WoW. Really into the Final Fantasy series though and I had a pretty good time playing Mass Effect. Really liked the Legacy of Kain series. I'm also really looking forward to The Force Unleashed... not really into Star Wars, but I love the technology that they're implementing in the game. These are just a few, but it's what I mainly go for.



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Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 09:53:45 PM
If you were really into FPS, you'd be a PC gamer. :P

Like the PS3, but to a lesser extent, it took a while for the big guns to come out for the Wii. There were some others that were great games, but lacked the wow and longevity factor. Mario Galaxy is simply the best game out for the Wii. I've never dones this in any game but I plan to collect all the stars at some point.

I'd love a Wii development company to implement the finger tracking idea. It would be simple enough to do, tell them to place the Wii remote on top of the TV and give them gloves with IR LEDs in. That would be too awesome too imagine.



Offline Shooty McBang

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Reply #9 on: January 15, 2008, 02:36:19 AM
I actually can't stand keyboard and mouse. I also can't imagine spending so much money on a gaming PC. I grew up a console gamer and will always be a console gamer. I'm not particularly interested in the Wii as I am in the technology that can be developed through the Wiimote. I have great faith and confidence in the Xbox regardless of all of the issues it has faced. At least Microsoft is actually taking care of their issues. Everyone makes mistakes, but in my opinion, Microsoft is a great company.



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Reply #10 on: January 15, 2008, 07:43:03 PM
I can't stand two analogue sticks to do what I can do with moving my mouse less than an inch, a lot faster with a lot more accuracy.

But anyway, I use my PC for the high-end visual side of things, CoD 4 looks beautiful, Crysis has the most depth you'll see for a long time. But then I use my Wii for having fun with friends, playing casually or having kick-**LOVE** controls for an FPS. Nothing like aiming something at the screen.



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Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 03:42:23 PM
I really agree with this. Sure, Super Mario Galaxy and Wii Sports have better graphics than the PS2 (the miis are supposed to look that way), but if the anti aliasing was better, we could have a truly amazing console. Then the head-tracking. :D



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Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
I can't say I agree with everything, for example, windows is not a great company, its consumed by corporate greed, they couldn't care less about their users, just look at their Xbox warranty (As one example, out of the hundreds), I wouldn't say Sony is that much better, but not as bad as Microsoft.

Nintendo did what they thought would sell best,
they could have made the exact same console, only with graphics that match the xbox and ps3..
but it would cost too much and not that many people will buy it, its the dilemma with graphics and gameplay.

As for the wiimote project, even if at the end, the xbox and the ps3 don't end up adapting it, there is always the PC,
I'm willing to bet that before the end of the year the PC will pass the PS3's graphics too, if you treat the PC as a "console", you could say its the most expensive one in the market ;)



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Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008, 06:05:31 PM
good rant, man. did u like, prepare that or something. i think i'm actually seeing the light!!! but my pc cant play games..... LINUX! cant they like, make games for linux? by my opinion, if they did, PC could be the best gaming 'console' ever! maybe even better than the wii..... anyways, this has mad eme think, and i think ur right, man. ROCK ON!  ;)