Author Topic: A wii replacment??????  (Read 9252 times)

Offline uzi8

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on: January 12, 2008, 06:55:04 AM
Ok, is there a way to replace the wii controler with something else....
I dont want to buy the controler if i have something else that can replace it.....
Can a mobile phone (with infrared port), and or some other tool replace the wii controler???

Thanks for help.......




Offline dice

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Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 07:16:52 AM
The only thing i have heard you can use other than the wiimote, is a webcam.  You need a Infrared cam that plugs up to your pc.

Other than that I dont know

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Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 11:42:38 AM
A Wii controler costs about the same as a good mouse, and is a LOT more versatile. On second thought, do yourself a big favor, and buy a Wii :)

Seriously, a webcam currently does not come close to this. Even the best can do about 30fps (wiimote effectively does 3x that at 100Hz). A comparable camera solution costs more than 100USD, perhaps lot more.

You would also have to figure out how to disembowel it, taking out the IR filter (unless it is an enamel on the lens, in which case you're out of luck).

You would then have to find a light filter that will let IR through, but conveniently blocks the visible light spectrum. (exposed film does the trick actually). Place that in front of the lens.

Then all you still need to do, is to figure out a way to connect your webcam to the software that is looking for a Wiimote, but all it finds is a webcam.

The Wiimote sends you the co-ordinates of the "blobs" (ir spots), whereas a hacked camera will send you a picture that still needs to be processed (by touchlib for example) and is quite computing intensive.

So how does buying a Wiimote sound now? :)



Offline uzi8

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Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 06:39:44 AM
Ok ill buy a wiimote.......
After all, its quite useful!



Offline bryanarby

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Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 09:57:15 AM
buying a wiimote when me and my friends got atleast our V2 going. ^^

wiipen
point ATM: building V2
V1: 1 LED on 1 AAA battery feed
V2: 1 LED on USB feed
V2 will be remodded too V3
V3: 1 LED on USB feed /w LMB and RMB
V4: 1 LED WIRELESS /w LMB and RMB
V5: we'll see :3
Vmany: Bluetooth IR pen with mouse functions.


Offline weck9406

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Reply #5 on: January 15, 2008, 06:57:08 PM
Good sales pitch gabort.




Offline Concept

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Reply #6 on: January 15, 2008, 07:08:10 PM
Wiimote's awesome for games as well.

For instance, I've got Guitar Hero for the Wii, but when I want to go on the road I've got the PC version on my laptop. All I do it connect it up via bluetooth and go.

It can make a pretty decent remote control, games controller, till switch, alarm clock basically anything you can think of.



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Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 08:29:50 PM
Hey all!

I am interested in this project, but like many out there I don't own a Wii, much less a Wiimote. And while it is a fairly convincing argument that the Wiimote will be by far much more accurate, I would like to give this software a test drive before spending close to 90 USD between the Wiimote and Bluetooth adapter (Wiimote goes for 700 mexican pesos and a bluetooth adapter goes for about 250, so...)

So what I did is that I made an external IR filter for my camera, and it works and all but the problem s that when I try to run WhiteBoard I get an error msg that says: Unable to find a Wiimote please check your bluetooth.

So do any of you know to get around this thing? And do please keep it somewhat simple software-wise since I am not very knowledgeable in that area, in terms of modifying files and such.

Thanks for your help.



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Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 03:07:18 AM
All wiiremote programs are build around the WiimoteLib. You would have to modify the code to work with other input library's .. in you're case the input library would be TouchLib (if you don't use any yet). http://www.whitenoiseaudio.com/touchlib/




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Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 06:40:21 PM
Dtortot, the answer is in the error message :)

Also, please read my earlier posts that explain in detail the pain you need to go through to get something like this work with a camera.

Check these out also:
http://www.mortalspaces.com/diytouchpanels/
Hacking a webcam for IR: http://www.hoagieshouse.com/IR/
(but pls. note, that many modern webcams have lenses where the IR filter is an enamel, and can not be removed. You will need a new lens, without a filter.)
If you but an IR webcam instead, that already has a lens without a filter, but you will still need to block the visible spectrum, and have something convert the "blobs" of light into co-ordinates, and then use those co-ordinates to do something.

In short: you can not use this software without a Wiimote.