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Title: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: Barry on October 04, 2008, 10:10:45 PM
Hi all,

I have read a lot about tripod stands, clamps, etc, but after close looking at these boards, it seems there are not many working teachers here who have a mounted LCD projector in a classroom and have developed a permanent way to fix the wii remote by the ceiling.  I have already figured out how to have permanent power going to the remote(SONY)from an outlet in the ceiling, so batteries are not needed and power is not an issue.

Tripods and tables, etc. do not work in a busy classroom with 25 kids.

Can anyone out there make any suggestions for how to hang, or what to bu?. Pictures would be great of what to do for a drop ceiling classroom to stabalize the WII remote.

Thanks.

B
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: Davo on October 05, 2008, 04:41:07 AM
Hi Barry

A group of us (all school principals) have been working on this and other practical problems for a while now. We have a commercial website (3P Interact) which I will post a link to in the For Sale section of the site. We have been testing our products in classrooms over the last six months and will hopefully be able to list an effective ceiling mount in the next two weeks.

If you want to make your own, you need to get a piece of pipe (we use aluminium), attach it to a plate that can be screwed to the ceiling, and use an adjustable mount of some sort to attach the wiimote to the other end. Like you, we have found that in 'real' classrooms the wiimote is best positioned well out of reach!
Dave
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: Barry on October 05, 2008, 08:30:13 AM
Hi Davo,

Thanks for getting back to me.  Glad to hear others are going thru this. 

About the remote mount, I will talk to my technology teachers this week and hopefully come up with something too.  I was thinking, like you, a pole of some sort hanging straight down with a way to attach the remote on the end; after we figur eout how low it should hang and the angle.

So far, have you found putting it up by the ceiling straight on (under the LCD projector) better or worse than off to the right or left (same height as LCD) just some feet away?

Thanks for the communication,

Barry
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: UndCon on October 06, 2008, 01:37:40 AM
I am using Neodynium magnets to mount a rod to the ceiling and another magnet to mount the Wiimote to the rod - similar described above...
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: Davo on October 06, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
Hi Barry

We have done a lot of testing about where best to position the wiimote and our results show that about 3m back from the projected image and slightly to the side (approx 1m from centre of image), gives the most reliable results. For right handed people the best offset is to the left and obviously vice versa for lefties although this is not crucial. We have also determined that the optimum projected image size is between 1.2 and 1.5m - anything bigger requires the wiimote to be too far back and will give unreliable performance.

Height from the ceiling is best either in line with the top edge of the projected image or up to 500mm above it. The mounts we are going to supply may be a little large (depending on where in the world you are) to post at a reasonable cost, so we are looking at creating a kit solution that people can add their own 'pole' to and create mounts of any size.

Dave
www.3pinteract.co.nz
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: adidas4275 on October 08, 2008, 05:42:28 PM
i could figure out a way to mount the Wii mote but I do not know how you are going to sync it consistantly...

I have to push the buttons on the wii mote in order for my PC to connect to the Wii mote every day.....

so if it were on the ceiling that would provide for a small problem.  is there a way to make the wii mote connect w/o pushing a button?
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: cjskin on October 09, 2008, 09:51:14 AM
Right now...I have the Wii remote attached to my ceiling projector with a rubberband. I used Kleenex to gain the appropriate angle for calibration. My intent is to fashion a wedge (hopefully out of acrylic) and attach it to the projector, then use double-sided velcro to attach the Wii. This will keep a stable angle and position and allow removal for battery replacement....Good Luck!!
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: adidas4275 on October 09, 2008, 11:42:17 PM
how do you all deal with syncing it to the PC every day?

Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: cjskin on October 13, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
it's mounted upside down...so i just push the buttons in the morning and keep it sync'ed all day.
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: DuFFxP93 on October 13, 2008, 07:18:30 PM
I'm a student at Gaithersburg High School in Maryland. How could i recommend this idea to the school or Montgomery County Public School system? It would be great and would save alot of money replacing those ridiculous smart boards. I've already turned my pc into one. It's really interesting, the possibilities with this technology.
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: KINGTIGER2 on October 22, 2008, 05:42:25 PM
hi I think you can mount a telescoping rod off of the wall with the wiiremote mounted at the end. this is what i am going to try anyway.
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: piliboy on November 08, 2008, 12:24:51 AM
Hey Y'all,
I found a product at Home Depot that I'm sure is also available at Lowes and other stores of that ilk.  It's a clip specifically designed to hang stuff from the T-bar that holds the panels of so many classroom ceilings.  Many schools are built with drop ceilings, meaning that the ceiling in the classroom has space above it, just above the lightweight panel, filled with pipes, wires and whatnot.  The metal bars that hold those lightweight panels are what I'm attaching my wiimote to.
I have the clip meant for these T-bars which has a screw coming out the bottom that I put through a PVC T connector that I drilled a hole in.  That screwed on using a locking nut I stick a piece of PVC pipe into the T connector and another T connector at the bottom which is about 7 feet from the ground.  From this lower T connector I insert a 4 inch length of PVC pipe onto which I used electrical tape to attach a strong rectangular magnet (super glue did NOT hold it).  I also taped a matching magnet to the back of the Wiimote and snap it onto the PVC's magnet.  Since I did not cement the PVC at the bottom I'm able to rotate the 4 inch length until the Wiimote is pointed correctly at the whitebaord for the best resolution.
With the magnets holding the Wiimote 7 feet off the ground it's easy to put the Wiimote away when not in use, easy to sync with the bluetooth, easy to change batteries, yet is high enough to not be in the way while in use.  I'm quite happy with this result.  Once I've adjusted the 4 inch PVC to the correct position I don't really need to move it and can just pop the Wiimote on and go.
The whole set up weighs less than a pound, costs about three dollars and works great.  If anyone wants more details I can post pictures and list brands, prices, etc.
Thanks to everyone for posting their thoughts and solutions, I've used many of them.
Bill
Tigard, Oregon, USA
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: KINGTIGER2 on November 14, 2008, 09:39:26 AM
I'D LOVE TO SEE A PICTURE OF THIS
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: peol on November 23, 2008, 06:49:47 PM
Hey. Don't know if you guys have solved your problems, but I use a custom built (no camera at the moment I'm afraid) mount for my wiimote that could easily be attached as a ceiling mount. It looks identically to the mount on the picture, but smaller.

(http://www.nordiskmusik.se/Global/Produkter-bilder/guil_alt-05_stor.jpg)

Maybe this is something for you? It was real easy to make if you know a little about "home carpenting" :-)

Edit: Some specifications
I mounted the wiimote using two small screws through the battery gap on the backside of it, fixating it real good to the mount.
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: piliboy on November 26, 2008, 10:34:15 AM
Hey y'all,
I have been using the PVC pipe attached to the product I bought at Home Depot and it's working great.  I have a blog with pictures of my setup at http://hazelbrookwiimoteproject.blogspot.com/.  The whole setup cost me less than $5 including a couple of magnets.
The wiimote hangs low enough to just reach up and grab, so you can sync it, adjust it, and at the end of the day or at lunch you can take it down and lock it up, then pop it back up when you're ready to use it.
Feel free to email me with any questions, or of course you can post comments or questions on my blog.
Bill
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: armix8 on February 27, 2009, 05:10:10 AM
hey man please to solve this with least amount of trouble check out www.penteractive.us (http://www.penteractive.us)
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: jdkestewart on February 27, 2009, 05:01:12 PM
Hi all,
I have had a permanent setup in my classroom since last October. Simplist ideas are often the best and cheapest. I use an ocky strap and place the wiimote upside down on the side of the projector. I also designed a remote syncing system for free. Works perfectly. Now I don't have to get up, press the buttons with a metre ruler, rush back to my laptop and sync before it times out. It's all done from my desk. It's virtually invisible but faultless and free. Anyone can do it. Again you have to think that the simplist ideas are often the best!!!! I also have a 3 volt AC charger powering my wiimote so no batteries. It's also completely portable within seconds in case I have to go to another room. I just put the batteries back in. I'll post photos as soo as I have blurred out the children's faces for privacy issues.
Also, the ceiling mounted projector can be aimed to the floor for an interactive floorspace. I use a piece of melemine coated masonite. Children can then sit/lie on the floor and do interactive maths etc or I can put 4 children's desks together, place the board on them and they can sit around the board. They LOVE it. Yet another dimension to engaging stundents with their learning. I believe an interactive table used to cost about $8000 a year or so ago. Today, well how cheaply can you buy a wiimote???

It's the best system, works so seamlessly and reliablly but most importantly, the children just love it and get so much out of it. Now I have to set up the whole school. Can't wait.

Good luck all with your efforts,
Joe.
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: boonjin on February 28, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
Hi all,
I have had a permanent setup in my classroom since last October. Simplist ideas are often the best and cheapest. I use an ocky strap and place the wiimote upside down on the side of the projector. I also designed a remote syncing system for free. Works perfectly. Now I don't have to get up, press the buttons with a metre ruler, rush back to my laptop and sync before it times out. It's all done from my desk. It's virtually invisible but faultless and free. Anyone can do it. Again you have to think that the simplist ideas are often the best!!!! I also have a 3 volt AC charger powering my wiimote so no batteries. It's also completely portable within seconds in case I have to go to another room. I just put the batteries back in. I'll post photos as soo as I have blurred out the children's faces for privacy issues.
Also, the ceiling mounted projector can be aimed to the floor for an interactive floorspace. I use a piece of melemine coated masonite. Children can then sit/lie on the floor and do interactive maths etc or I can put 4 children's desks together, place the board on them and they can sit around the board. They LOVE it. Yet another dimension to engaging stundents with their learning. I believe an interactive table used to cost about $8000 a year or so ago. Today, well how cheaply can you buy a wiimote???

It's the best system, works so seamlessly and reliablly but most importantly, the children just love it and get so much out of it. Now I have to set up the whole school. Can't wait.

Good luck all with your efforts,
Joe.

Hi Joe,

Now I understand why you are looking for multi touch applications.

It is great to hear that you are innovating education in the classroom. Can't wait to see your photos. :)

Unfortunately for me, it took me many months just to get a temporary projector for my university project.


Regards,
Boon Jin
Title: Re: Help needed.. Mounting WII remote in classroom
Post by: bubka on March 28, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
Here is my setup:

http://www.wiimoteproject.com/wiimote-interactive-learning-and-pedagodgy-discussion/my-wiimote-interactive-whiteboard-setup/

Hope this helps!