Author Topic: Succesful setup , write, left click  (Read 23564 times)

Offline petranf

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on: February 08, 2009, 06:59:02 AM
Hello everybody.
First i would to thank the community for the wealth of knoledge and the inspiration to make my whiteboard. Since i am a civil engineer, my main interest is to make my work productive and most of all to replace the lcd screen ( which has offered me a lot of headaches) whith a projector.

I have done the first step. Set up the wii which works nice. Just waiting tfor the projector...

I also upgraded the tip-click pen so that i am able to watch the mouse pointer all the time and when i press it i manipulate the left click. Also i can manipulate the right click. Soon i ll post more details...

My main issue at the moment is that i want a better quality pen such as the navisis ezcanvas : http://www.navisis.com/ENGLISH/03_pro/ez-canvas_navisis.php?tmenu=03.
I like the small infrared led which i believe will eliminate any cursor offest.

Does anyone know where to find this one ?



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Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 08:06:02 AM
I'm not sure if you were asking about the type pen or the complete system. I was intrigued by the concept as well so I found the system being sold on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.com/EZ-Canvas-PC-Tablet-Screen-Monitor-Capture-_W0QQitemZ390000746696QQcmdZViewItem.

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Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 03:13:02 PM
No, my main interest is just the pen, since i have a good wii setup. I just wonder if i could find at least a smaller led just like navis's pen.

By the way, If navisis ez canvas could apply to screens bigger than 19inch, maybe i would buy it.



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Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 04:52:24 PM
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Interesting preat product & price, I see a lot of potential (none for the wiimoteproject though)

Not sure if the IR-Led will be bright enough for Wiimote.

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Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 05:36:48 PM
well, a "fine tip" light pen wouldn't be too far outside the realm of possibility, would could just have a piece of fiber optic cable which leads the led light to a "tip", effectively reducing the size of the IR source, making tracking more precise.



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Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 01:27:29 AM
i'd be very interested to see what your solution to the left click dillema was. A lot of people have tried to solve this and gotten mixed results



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Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 02:22:16 AM
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I think that the fibre optic will only really work with rear view displays the wiimote requires a reasonable sized IR-Blog to detect. That said certainly worth researching.

The right click in this pen is most proberbly done by a weak wireless radio, like many wireless mice/keyboards. Giving only a range of 1m max from radio, hence useless for a large whiteboard setup.

I would argue the Right Clicker in the systems tool bar is the leading rick click solution for the IWB's I have used. I put the idea to boonjin before I had actually tried other IWB's ( :D feeling good about myself right now  :D):

Smartboard: A physical button on the base of the board
Promethean: A gesture (wave the pen a certain way)
Panabaord: An awkard button on the pen

I find the quick motion to the system try click, see a visual confirmation of a right click for the next click then right click in my choice is very quick and painless. The only thing that beats it in my view is a Wacom graphics tablet. The pen switch is very smooth and natural.

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Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 06:27:48 AM
Ok , i have made a diagram of the pen. I hope it is undersandalble. I dont have a camera for a demnstation.

I may have disappointed somebody about the wired version :), but it works fine with me and it is not a big deal if you use a wireless mouse. The big advantage is that you are able to see the pointer move ALL the time when you move the pen close to the board and when you press it , you are able to paint-write-left click generally.

I am available for any suggestions
« Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 07:07:32 AM by petranf »



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Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 07:20:43 AM
« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 06:57:30 AM by petranf »



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Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 10:31:25 AM
This can be implemented with an IR pen that can fit the smallest RF wireless mouse ( http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=27&l2=145&l3=658&l4=0&model=2141&modelmenu=1 ).  I am yet to see how much this is though.



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Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
petranf
I'm about to try this with a Bluetooth mouse. I have a really nice MX9000, that will be easy, but i like that mouse. I have just bought a $15 mouse on ebay. I want to try piggy backing the IR-Led power supply direct from the mouse, have a right/left & centre click buttons, with left click also preassure sensitive. I want to try and keep the mouse intact so it will fit in the users pocket (long ribbon wiring) so it can be used as a mouse if needed.

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Reply #11 on: February 15, 2009, 10:35:47 AM
petranf
... I want to try piggy backing the IR-Led power supply direct from the mouse, have a right/left & centre click buttons, with left click also preassure sensitive. .benpaddlejones :)

Benpaddlejones, I didnt find a 1.5 volts sourse from the mouse "plaket". The mouse led uses 0.5 volts. If you get 1.5V please let me known cause battery dont last long.
I am also interested for the click sensitivity. I dont know how you will achieve this but it will be for sure very interesting.

I have added a vid, check it out:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYy28QtM8XI[/youtube]
« Last Edit: February 17, 2009, 05:27:37 AM by petranf »



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Reply #12 on: February 15, 2009, 04:05:22 PM
petranf
A bluetooth mouse requires 2x AA/AAA batteries, I going to hack diretc to the batteries. IR-Led draws so little current should affect the mouse (may be wrong will then include  abattery in the IR-Pen body.

Pressure sensitive concept: http://www.wiimoteproject.com/ir-pens/improved-pressure-tip-pen/ I will direct wire the IR-Led and wire the pressure sensitive mechanisim to teh left click on the mouse.

I have only just orderd a Mini USB mouse from ebay. So when complete I will show pictures etc.

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Reply #13 on: February 15, 2009, 04:38:57 PM

...Pressure sensitive concept: ...
ahh ok, i thought you ment that it will work like wacom and "read" the pressure of the pen. Mine is pressure sensite too.


« Last Edit: February 16, 2009, 05:24:03 AM by petranf »



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Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 02:12:49 AM
hi benpaddlejones, why does it have to be wired to a mouse to do right click? can we just make a pen that can do a momentary triple click on the click of one button, then ask Boon Jin to make his software recogonize this triple click as a right click?